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I really don't want to be a drama queen with this, but I feel it needs to be said.

Recently, I did some screenshots for the [[Temple of the Eye]] quest before [[user:Spineweilder]] (who usually does them) got to them. Of course, once he ''did'' get to the page, he replaced all of the screenshots I took with his own.

Ordinarily I don't object to them doing screenshot replacements - the ones I made for [[2022 Birthday event]] were frankly shabby and needed to be replaced. But in the case of Temple of the Eye I made a concerted effort to keep the screenshots to the wiki standard, and Spinewilder still disregarded all of my screenshots and replaced them with his own.

I think we need to definitely clarify this policy: do admins have the authority to unilaterally replace screenshots on pages? How should we determine who gets to make the screenshots? And if someone replaces yours, do you have any recourse? [[User:SacKings|SacKings]] ([[User talk:SacKings|talk]]) 22:17, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

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'''Comment''' - Not sure why this warrants a post on the Grove, but I've already posted my reply on your talk page; for the sake of clarity for others, I shall repost it here.

{{cquote2|I appreciate that you're willing to help with imagework, but the quality of your images appear to be distorted and scaled up. See the below image for example; the top is one of yours, and the bottom is the true size of the chatbox.}}

https://i.imgur.com/Vf5HNde.png

{{cquote2|It may be the settings regarding the resolution of your display that causes the images to scale up, but those are not of an acceptable quality, so it results in the images needing to be retaken.}}

-- {{Signatures/Spineweilder}} 22:26, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
:And for [[:File:Temple of the Eye Spongebob.png]], Spine simply uploaded a much higher quality image. This is pretty standard stuff for image work, Spine being an admin has nothing to do with it. {{Template:Signatures/ScarletTwig}} 22:37, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

:"but those are not of an acceptable quality,"
:This probably sounds a little more aggressive than you meant it to, Spine. No need to be so formal about it.
:@SacKings, the image replacements definitely aren't a personal attack or anything, just an attempt to keep a consistent resolution standard across the wiki. Are you using the stretched mode plugin on RuneLite or a retina display by any chance (or some other sort of upscaling)? That could explain the scaled up images. btw feel free to hop on the wiki discord if you wanna talk in a looser/faster medium if you ever have policy questions, we debate that shit all the time in there lol -[[User:Towelcat|Towelcat]] ([[User talk:Towelcat|talk]]) 23:13, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
:Oh and another thing: I just wanna say I appreciate the heck out of people uploading new screenshots, regardless of quality! Even if they're replaced at some point, something is still better than nothing! -[[User:Towelcat|Towelcat]] ([[User talk:Towelcat|talk]]) 23:20, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
'''No support''' - I'd let [[User:Spineweilder|Spineweilder]] overwrite my left nut if he thought it was a net improvement to the wiki. Seriousness aside, this kind of thing can happen very easily and unintentionally when batching uploads. I also don't think it's terribly important whose name appears on the file revision. What's important is that the file is consistent with others of its kind, and that it faithfully depicts the material as presented in game, with (ideally) no alterations. As for your questions:
{{quote|Do admins have the authority to unilaterally replace screenshots on pages?}}
My answer would be "yes", but that affirmation extends to all editors, provided they are editing in good faith... though it would be unusual for this to be necessary. The nature of wiki editing is making unilateral changes, or coming to a community consensus in the case of large-scale edits. There is no requirement for any editor, admin or otherwise, to consult with the community at large if they believe they are editing in good faith — especially for something as basic as uploading a new version of an image. 
{{quote|How should we determine who gets to make the screenshots?}}
It isn't important who "gets" to upload images; it is a first-come first-serve basis. [[RuneScape:Ownership#Files|No one owns anything]] here. For the case of detailed item image renders or NPCs, it is best to leave it to someone with access to ''The Renderer''™, or if possible, to pull the image from [[User:riblet15|riblet]]'s [https://chisel.weirdgloop.org/moid/ Minimal OSRS Item Database] tool.
{{quote|And if someone replaces yours, do you have any recourse?}}
Sure. If you notice someone has overwritten your image with an image of unacceptable quality, you may consider reverting it. 

See the image below, on the bottom-left side ( '''<nowiki/>'revert'''' ):

https://i.imgur.com/ihnVkRB.png

If you believe your version of the image to be a more accurate depiction, before loosing the proverbial artillery and potentially engaging in a [[RS:3RR|reversion war]], consider discussing it directly with the editor. There are many ways to reach out. [[meta:Discord|Discord]] is one option that has been mentioned; a [[Special:MyTalk|talk page]] is also a suitable place for such a discussion.

Hope this helps! {{User:Owl/Signature}} 02:33, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

'''Closed''' - [[User:Spineweilder|Spineweilder]] will not unilaterally replace screenshots without good reason. As this seems to be a misunderstanding of [[RS:IMG|Image and Media Policy]] where Spine is only attempting to upload images that follow said policy, I don't think there is much more discussion that can take place. {{User:Fjara/Signature}} 01:47, 9 April 2022 (UTC)