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==RuneScape:Contact us==
Hi! Can we please get the Bureaucrats and Administrators tables moved towards the bottom of the page? That will better align with the last bit of the page that states: ''Contact any of the following Old School RuneScape Wiki administrators' by leaving a message on one of their talk pages (see links below):''. Additionally, can we get that random apostrophe removed from that same sentence? Thanks! {{User:Legaia2Pla/Signature}} 01:39, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

:Can we just get that page unprotected (or at least semi) since it is in violation of [[RS:PP]] and the reason given for protecting it is: "probably nobody needs to edit it" which is evidently false as proven by this request. [[User:Chen|チェン]] ([[User talk:Chen|話し合う]]) 01:41, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

::Fixed for both instances. [[User:Jakesterwars|Jakesterwars]] ([[User talk:Jakesterwars|talk]]) 01:44, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

==Skeleton (Tarn's Lair) / Agility Potion Drop sources==
I believe this change falls under the 

"Minor edits to protected pages. This is mostly on protected templates that can have a substantial impact on the whole wiki if they are changed, so caution is urged when they are modified."

I have a newer Ironman account and was finsihing the quest TAi Bwo Wannai Trio. In the quest you are required to have an agility potion (4). 
When looking up scources for this the only thing that i could find are either making it with herblore, killing a lvl 63/72/77 Skeletion after completing a quest, or waiting for the Hyde random event. 
After about 3 weeks of waiting for the evet while skilling I started to get impatient because i had over 10k Karambwans in my bank that I couldn't cook. 
I then was rewatching a Swampletics video where he was testing the drops of the lowest level Skeletons and on his first drop of a level 40 was an Agility potion (2). I then confermed this on my main and then again on my ironman. My main only took 6 kills to get the drop but it took 120 on my ironman so i dont know what the rate would be, but it should be known they drop it.

-[[User:Jace Solo|Jace Solo]] ([[User talk:Jace Solo|talk]]) 22:10, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

:Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Turns out, despite the name of the droptable subroutine being called "~lotr_skeleton_droptable_lvl61_80", the level 40 Skeletons in Tarn's Lair were also using that table (instead of "~lotr_skeleton_droptable_lvl40_60" as we would have expected). It's been confirmed in game and corrected on the page. :) [[User:BigDiesel2m|BigDiesel2m]] ([[User talk:BigDiesel2m|talk]]) 20:58, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

==Adding Discord images to Whitelist==
Hello, I was hoping that we could add Discord images to the [[MediaWiki:External image whitelist|Whitelist]] for hotlinking. This could provide an alternative for external images on the Wiki. There was a user that expressed concerns about using some of the alternatives due to potential expiry of the image. Thank you! {{User:Legaia2Pla/Signature}} 01:03, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

:[https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/MediaWiki:External_image_whitelist?type=revision&diff=12117433&oldid=10349436 Resolved] thanks to [[User:Spineweilder|Spineweilder]]. {{User:Legaia2Pla/Signature}} 15:08, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

==Move File via Revert==
Hello! I don't remember who it was that made it so when a File: is moved, the redirect option is automatically unchecked. I found an instance where this isn't working as anticipated and hoping we can get it sorted. When you go to a user's public log, there is an option to select (revert) on the log about moving a file. However, when doing this, the redirect option is still checked by default. Here's an example: [https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Special:MovePage?wpMovetalk=0&wpNewTitle=File%3ADecorative_armour_%28red%2C_platebody%29_detail.png&wpOldTitle=File%3ADecorative_armour_%28red_platebody%29_detail.png&wpReason=revert (revert)] Thank you! {{User:Legaia2Pla/Signature}} 18:35, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

:The gadget that defines that behaviour ([[MediaWiki:Gadget-UncheckFileRedirect.js]]) has been updated and should now function correctly on both regular moves and move reverts. [[User:BigDiesel2m|BigDiesel2m]] ([[User talk:BigDiesel2m|talk]]) 02:01, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

==Audio Files==
Hello! Our audio files act weird on the Wiki. On their respective article pages, it's not possible to open the menu on the audio player; the menu appears to hide behind the Infobox. Additionally, on the actual file page, if you click <code>File</code> the player appears and starts playing. This sort of occurrence happens in '''Recent changes''' and when '''searching''' for an Audio file. The RSW does not appear to have the same issues. Hoping we can find a way to improve usability for these sort of files. 

Related to Files, but not the player. There is a weird '''TimedText''' option on .ogg files. Wondering if this is needed, and if not if we're able to remove or hide it. You can find the link at the top of an audio file page like [[:File:Harmony 2.ogg]] or directly at https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/TimedText:Harmony_2.ogg. Thanks! {{User:Legaia2Pla/Signature}} 23:32, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

:Clarification, for searching it's when you search for the <code>File:</code> not the music track page. An example of the player appearing can be found here: [https://discordapp.com/channels/177206626514632704/269673599554551808/700153046088286249 Discord message.] {{User:Legaia2Pla/Signature}} 23:41, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

::I've found 2 more ways to play files unintentionally. Clicking "File" when on a file page plays the file. Clicking edit and then clicking cancel on a file page also plays the file. Audio menu still renders beneath infoboxes so it's still impossible to get to an audio file page from a mainspace page. {{User:Crow653/Signature}} 04:35, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

==Master Farmers Update Drop Rates/Quantites==
I asked Mod Ash on Twitter about the drop quantites of Wildblood seeds and Snape grass seeds and have citations and quotes from him [https://twitter.com/JagexAsh/status/1253020589310312448](here) and [https://twitter.com/JagexAsh/status/1253007748159221767](here). I was unable to actually add these changes that I so carefully tried to make as my first contribution but was blocked as the current rates are apparently locked in due to Mod Wolf previously confirming most of them already (but not Snape grass seeds). How do I update the page with the new information? Thanks! [[User:StarYeen|StarYeen]] 18:27, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

:Thanks for bringing this to our attention! Sorry you couldn't edit the pages yourself; I guess we have some restrictions on editing Jagex-confirmed drop tables, since in most cases they shouldn't really be touched. :P I've added the proper snape grass seed rarity and adjusted the wildblood seed quantity to match Ash's tweets. [[User:BigDiesel2m|BigDiesel2m]] ([[User talk:BigDiesel2m|talk]]) 18:56, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

==Iron Dragon Drop Rate of Draconic Visage==
The Iron Dragons page says the odds of Draconic Visage is 1/5000, but that contradicts the Draconic Visage page that states 1/10000. It must be 1/10000, otherwise Iron Dragons would drop it at twice the rate of Steel Dragons. I can't correct it on the Iron Dragons page because drop rates confirmed by Jagex are protected. {{u|76.112.159.140|00:19, 24 April 2020 (UTC)}}

:The 1/5,000 rate is for [[Deadman Mode]], and normally its 1/10,000. I believe we do make that distinction on the iron dragon page. -- {{Signatures/Spineweilder}} 00:22, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

:My bad. {{u|76.112.159.140|01:12, 25 April 2020 (UTC)}}

==Unable to complete quest==
While trying to complete the quest Demon Slayer, the text block for wizard Traiborn that should come up to ask about a key, does not come up. {{u|2603:9000:810b:8520:6cf7:d00d:de12:ec22|23:46, 27 April 2020 (UTC)}}

:I would suggest making sure that you obtained the first and second key before attempting to get the third from [[Wizard Traiborn|Traiborn]]. Additionally, this section of the Wiki is for requesting something to be done that requires [[RS:Administrators|admin]] tools. I would suggest joining our [https://discord.gg/HWhxYsP Discord] for any further assistance with the quest. Thanks! :) -{{User:Legaia2Pla/Signature}} 23:52, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

==Cryptic inappropriate language warning==
''"Hitpoints is the only defensive skill commonly trained among pures due to the fact that training [[ranged]], [[attack]] and [[strength]] with standard methods grants hitpoints experience."'' seems to trigger inappropriate language warning, which rejected my edit to the [[Free-to-play combat pure guide]] page. I'm not sure what exactly triggers the filter, but I was unable to add simple variations of this sentence to the hitpoints section. - [[User:PureF2P|PureF2P]] ([[User talk:PureF2P|talk]]) 10:58, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

:The filter matched on <code>grants Hitpoints</code> due to the <code>s Hit</code> substring (it removes whitespace before looking for matches). It can be a bit of a double-edged sword at times, but false positives like this are relatively rare. It's probably better to reword it without that substring (so others can edit the line in the future without running into the same problem). Let me know if you'd like it added anyway. -[[User:Towelcat|Towelcat]] ([[User talk:Towelcat|talk]]) 11:23, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

::I rephrased the sentence, but it would be helpful if the filter listed the matched paragraphs. I was in the middle of a bigger edit and had to save it section by section to pinpoint the issue. - [[User:PureF2P|PureF2P]] ([[User talk:PureF2P|talk]]) 14:27, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

==Wrong Information in the Champion's Challenge Article!==
Greetings - I just wanted to say that the following line in the Champion's Article [[Champions' Challenge]] is wrong:

'''There are eleven champions that may challenge the player, and each one lays down certain rules for the fight. It is possible to use a Dwarf multicannon in the arena, it will even deal damage to Champions who are immune to range attacks from the player.''' 

- That is not the case - I just tried to kill the Giant Champion with the Multi Canon and Larxus said "I believe you were told that you cannot use range against this Champion" or sth like that.

Just wanted to mention that in case someone relies on his cannon and dies in there... {{u|217.149.164.161|17:52, 26 May 2020 (UTC)}}

:Hello! I have gone ahead and added the information about the cannon. In the future, feel free to edit the page yourself and add the information. Additionally, please feel free to the use any page's respective ''Discussion'' tab to talk about the page, including if information is wrong or missing. This section is best used only for requests that require administrator rights to perform. Thank you! {{User:Legaia2Pla/Signature}} 02:12, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

==Delete image with personal information.==
Accidentally did a just slight-off bad cropping job while trying to add a location image. Fixed, but the original image upload contains my ingame username, if I could kindly ask that it be removed. Thank you.

IMAGE IN QUESTION: File:Icyene_graveyard.png {{u|Wontonstrips|05:06, 5 June 2020 (UTC)}}

:Gone. Thanks for the upload! {{Signatures/Cook Me Plox}} 05:06, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

==confused how to submit a ban appeal==
Hey, I was what I believe to be incorrectly banned a few days ago. I was directed to the ban appeal page (https://meta.weirdgloop.org/w/Discord/Banned_users), which directs me to post my request below "this message". I am not sure how to do this unfortunately. Could I post my ban appeal in this section, or add someone on discord directly? Thanks in advance. {{u|173.77.162.188|00:24, 13 June 2020}}

:Feel free to shoot me a message on Discord '''James - Legaia_2_Pla#5109''' -{{User:Legaia2Pla/Signature}} 00:27, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

==Adding reference to [[Coffin (Hallowed Sepulchre)]] & [[Grand Hallowed Coffin]]==
Hi there!

I want to add this reference to [[Coffin (Hallowed Sepulchre)]] & [[Grand Hallowed Coffin]]:
<ref>Jagex. [https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/h7h7sc/darkmeyer_improvements/fukyeuh/ JagexHusky's Reddit Account] 12 June 2020. JagexHusky: "For full disclosure here are what the marks have changed to:"</ref>

The spell check thinks that I have added an inappropriate word (Probably the fukyeuh part of the link).

[[User:ALegendsTale|ALegendsTale]] ([[User talk:ALegendsTale|talk]]) 01:03, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

:It might still not work, but could you try using [[Template:CiteReddit]] to add the reference? Something like this would probably be what you're looking for:

<pre><nowiki>{{CiteReddit|author=Mod Husky|url=https://reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/h7h7sc/darkmeyer_improvements/fukyeuh/|title=Darkmeyer Improvements|quote=For full disclosure here are what the marks have changed to:

Floor 2 : From 1-3 (2 average) to 2-3 (2.5 average)

Floor 3 : From 2-4 (3 average) to 3-5 (4 average)

Floor 4 : From 3-7 (5 average) to 3-6 (4.5 average)

Floor 5 : From 3-8 (5.5 average) to 4-6 (5 average)

Grand Coffin : From 8-11 (9.5 average) to 8-10 (9 average)
|date=12 June 2020|archiveurl=|archivedate=|notes=|name=}}</nowiki></pre>
:If that doesn't work, leave another message here and I'll just add the references myself. ;) Also, while you're at it, could you move the table in the references for [[Coffin (Hallowed Sepulchre)]] out of the references, maybe to the top section? It doesn't really look right to have a table in a references section like that, and I think it could fit just fine in the top section, above the drops. Leave a message if you have any issues or questions :) [[User:BigDiesel2m|BigDiesel2m]] ([[User talk:BigDiesel2m|talk]]) 01:34, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

::Thank you so much for the help! Unfortunately the reference still can't be added, but I've made the changes to the table that you suggested. Does it look better now?
::If you could add the reference that would be great!
::Thanks again :)
::[[User:ALegendsTale|ALegendsTale]] ([[User talk:ALegendsTale|talk]]) 06:11, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

:::Table looks much better on the Coffin page, and I added the references in on both pages. Thanks for the help and sorry you ran into some bad luck with the reddit url :P [[User:BigDiesel2m|BigDiesel2m]] ([[User talk:BigDiesel2m|talk]]) 07:04, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

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==re: confused how to submit ban appeal==
Hey, I added James - Legaia_2_Pla#5109 on discord, but he still hasnt added me back. My user is acrylic#6417. If you could add me back asap that would be wonderful, I'd really like to plead my case and hopefully get unbanned from the discord.

TIA {{u|173.77.162.188|18:06, 22 June 2020 (UTC)}}

:Hello! I am sorry for some miscommunication. I did receive your friend request, but given that I didn't know it was in regards to the ban appeal, I left it unanswered. I'm waiting on some input from other admins before doing anything further. I will keep you updated. Finally, I apologize for the potential ambiguity of the Meta page on appeals, I will be changing it slightly to make it easier to navigate/use. {{User:Legaia2Pla/Signature}} 23:36, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

::Update: Please post your appeal in the '''Requests''' section of the Meta page, which can be done here: https://meta.weirdgloop.org/w/Discord/Banned_users?action=edit&section=3 Thanks! {{User:Legaia2Pla/Signature}} 00:00, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

==Translate on russian for more popularity==
Hi, i can make translate on russian for more popularity OSRS wiki. [redacted] {{u|91.129.103.231|12:19, 26 June 2020 (UTC)}}

:Hello, you'll want to get in touch with Weird Gloop, Ltd. for matters of localisation. They can be contacted here: [[Special:Contact|Contact Weird Gloop]]. I have also removed the e-mail that was posted. Thank you and best of luck! {{User:Legaia2Pla/Signature}} 22:09, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

==Error in Pickpocketing elves==
this method should have an error, perform this method for about 6 hours and get 600,000 coins and 80 Crystal shards but no Enhanced crystal teleport seeds in approximately 3500 effective robberies.
the method is wrong or the drop rate is not 1/1024, or it has some kind of error. {{u|Vpetit25|19:12, July 7, 2020 (UTC)}}

:There is still a 5% chance of being that dry. So it's more likely that you're just unlucky, rather than there being a error in the drop table [[User:Luna Lana|Luna Lana]] ([[User talk:Luna Lana|talk]]) 19:18, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

::We have about 1.2 million loots from crowdsourced data that place it empirically at about 1/1046. I think 1/1024 is believable. {{Signatures/Cook Me Plox}} 19:34, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

==Dungeon Rat Drop Table==
The listed drop table for [[dungeon rat]]s in the [[Clock Tower Dungeon]] currently links to the Jagex confirmed drop table for [[giant rat]]s. This is incorrect, as dungeon rats only drop bones. Can we get the drop table unlinked so it can be corrected? {{u|Pangolin|00:34, 12 July 2020 (UTC)}}

:Hi! It looks like there are two distinct drop tables here, and one of them only drops bones, while the other drops rat meat and beginner clues. Do you know anything about the others? {{Signatures/Cook Me Plox}} 00:40, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

::I was a little confused about what you meant by two different drop tables, so I went out of my way to check every spawn in the game. This is going to sound a bit odd. There are 11 spawns in the Clock Tower. None of these drop anything but bones. There are 5 spawns in the [[Goblin Cave]]. 4 of these drop only bones. One of them always drops rat meat. I killed each one in the Goblin Cave 5 times, it's quite consistent. That obviously isn't enough kills to know whether that one is the standard Giant Rat table or if it just drops rat meat obviously, but it's something. {{u|Pangolin|01:22, 12 July 2020}}

:::There's one more in the Clock Tower (see [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/269673599554551808/731678512661921822/Screen_Shot_2020-07-11_at_6.09.03_PM.png this image]) that also drops rat meat. Also the one in the Ardougne Sewers (which isn't listed on the wiki) does not drop meat. Thanks for pointing this out – it's led to a fun discovery of a few VERY old mistakes on the site :) {{Signatures/Cook Me Plox}} 01:24, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

::::Ah wow lol, this went a lot further than I thought it would. Thanks for the help :) {{u|Pangolin|06:04, 12 July 2020 (UTC)}}

==Steel Dragon drop page link to Karamja Dairy but note the Elite requirement==
Currently the foot note for steel bars links [[Karamja Dairy]] this should be changed to [[Elite Karamja Diary]] to reflect the same sentiment as the Iron dragon page {{u|Donq123|04:34, 28 July 2020 (UTC)}}

==Broken code==
I noticed on a few pages, namely the Arceuus library page, you have incorrect code and it's showing up as errors all throughout the page.

Mainly, I wanted to bring this to your attention. I can also help with the coding issues, if need be. I'm a web developer. {{u|71.199.121.93|22:01, 7 August 2020 (UTC)}}

:I don't see any errors on the page [[User:Luna Lana|Luna Lana]] ([[User talk:Luna Lana|talk]]) 22:02, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

::[https://imgur.com/a/wfwJOaa Here is the screenshot] {{u|71.199.121.93|22:29, 7 August 2020 (UTC)}}

:::Well... That is the Fandom Wiki, OSRS Wiki does not have anything to do with the Fandom Wiki {{u|Luna Lana|22:31, 7 August 2020 (UTC)}}

:It looks like you're still using the Fandom wiki – we stopped supporting that site and moved over here (oldschool.runescape.wiki) about two years ago. I am not surprised that things are horribly broken over there. {{Signatures/Cook Me Plox}} 22:32, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

==Styling for large tables==
Got a few Lua-templates that has some large tables in them that are in need of some styling.

There's a few lines in "MediaWiki:Common.less/wikitables.less" that reads something like:

<pre><nowiki>table.align-right-1 td:nth-of-type(1),
table.align-center-1 td:nth-of-type(1),
table.align-left-1 td:nth-of-type(1),</nowiki></pre>

I need that extended up to about 20 - that's 20 columns. Thanks.--{{User:The scribe/Signature}} 05:46, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

:It's funny, this has bothered me a few times in the past but I kept forgetting to change it. You should be good now. -[[User:Towelcat|Towelcat]] ([[User talk:Towelcat|talk]]) 07:14, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

==Hard clues should be removed from rev cave ice giants.==
Currently the osrs wiki says that Ice Giants drop hard clues in the revenant caves.

Last week someone questioned this on the wiki discord and one of the admins confirmed that according to data no one has ever gotten a hard clue from them. 

So the drop should be removed from the wiki. However the page is protected because the drops rates were supposedly provided by Jagex so I'm unable to remove it myself.

Thanks.

Prove: 

https://i.imgur.com/mYCeSqq.png

{{u|SkulledIronMeme|13:50, 25 August 2020}}

:Ah, sorry about that. It's been removed, thanks. -[[User:Towelcat|Towelcat]] ([[User talk:Towelcat|talk]]) 15:17, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

==Offensive words on edit? Doesn't make sense.==
I was updating the run energy section under the agility page to mention the new ring of endurance.

The edit below was blocked for offensive words. I'm not sure what the trigger is. Can you shed any light? Thanks

Edit:
{{quote|
The amount of restored [[run energy]] per minute depends on the player's Agility level. Contrary to popular belief, a player's Agility level does not affect how quickly the player's run energy is depleted, just how quickly run energy is restored. Only weight matters for depletion, where a weight of 0 kg or less results in the lowest rate of run energy depletion. A charged [[Ring of endurance]] obtained from the [[Hallowed Sepulchre]] also reduces run energy drain rate by 15%.}}

Original:
{{quote|
The amount of restored [[run energy]] per minute depends on the player's Agility level. Contrary to popular belief, a player's Agility level does not affect how quickly the player's run energy is depleted, just how quickly run energy is restored. The only factor that contributes to how quickly run energy is depleted is weight, where a weight of 0&nbsp;kg or lower will result in the lowest rate of run energy depletion. Run energy restoration can be boosted by 30% if the complete [[graceful outfit]] is worn.}}
{{u|84.93.31.175|16:19, 28 August 2020 (UTC)}}

:This is going to sound ridiculous, but it was caused by the <code>weight of 0 kg or less</code> portion having <code>f 0 k</code> in it. This is because the offensive language filter strips all whitespace before comparing against its dictionary (it'd be trivially easy to bypass otherwise). While we can sometimes add exceptions to the filter, it's probably best to just add the <code>&amp;nbsp;</code> between 0 and kg again. -[[User:Towelcat|Towelcat]] ([[User talk:Towelcat|talk]]) 21:05, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

==The Fremennik Isles quick guide rewards do not display all rewards==
Hello,

I just completed "The Fremennik Isles" quest using the [[The Fremennik Isles/Quick guide|quick guide]], and I noticed the rewards aren't all there on this guide (compared to the [[The Fremennik Isles|full quest guide]]).

Most importantly, it leaves off the Helm of neitiznot which is included on the quest reward scroll picture.

I tried editing the page but I don't quite know what I'm doing and it looks like it's using some kind of pre-configured template.

Thought you might like to know as I believe this needs updating?

Thanks for running this site :)

--[[User:BootlegNerd|BootlegNerd]] ([[User talk:BootlegNerd|talk]]) 20:57, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

:A lot of the information on quick guides is copied over from the main quest page (as the information is the same) through templates. Thanks for pointing out it was missing, I moved it into the template and it now shows on the quick guide. {{User:Fjara/Signature}} 21:01, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

==Migration to stricter yesno() helper function==
As mentioned on [[Module talk:Yesno]], I proposed a tiny but impactful change to the yesno() function; yesno() will no longer silently assume empty parameters mean false and ignore any default value you might have given it. The new function corresponds to the original Wikipedia version.

But it's not done yet. So far I've only checked that there is no obvious problems remaining. And I'll keep looking some more. (private sandboxes were not checked <strike>and neither was Module:ItemDropsLine due to protection</strike>).

<strike>Maybe schedule this for say... Wednesday perhaps:<br/></strike>
Due to page-protection, I need an admin to copy the content of Module:Yesno/new replacing the content of Module:Yesno. After this, wait ~5 minutes, check [[:Category:Pages with script errors]], assuming that's all a-ok, you can go ahead and remove the four lines that begin with '-- Temporary check'.

I'll then change back all the require statements to how they were originally and tag the subpage for deletion, completing the task. Thanks. --{{User:The scribe/Signature}} 09:16, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

:Didn't spot Towelcat's log message until now, sorry. Basically waiting much longer to make this transition is a bad idea. If there was any remaining subtle problems I think we would have spotted them by now, and if one is spotted after the transition they are easy enough to fix, in most cases you can just add a default value. In other words there won't be a need to undo these changes, and so they can be made permanent. Also it's a good idea to have this module protected again for obvious reasons. Oh, and I already went ahead and deleted the temporary check a few days ago. --{{User:The scribe/Signature}} 14:21, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

==Prevent common nonsense==
Non descript error: prevent common nonsense.

I was trying to add a table of catches and fishing levels to [[drift net]].
I've already done this for [[drift net anchors]] which had no issues despite being the same content!

[[User:Iron Reythia|Iron Reythia]] ([[User talk:Iron Reythia|talk]]) 20:37, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

:After taking a quick look, it seems to be a result of how you were trying to copy and paste the content with the visual editor. You can get around this by using the source editor instead (clicking <code>Edit source</code> instead of <code>Edit</code> at the top). Table formatting in source may look a little gross but it should hopefully be bug-free! -[[User:Towelcat|Towelcat]] ([[User talk:Towelcat|talk]]) 20:46, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

==Editor is giving an offensive language warning (see Amulet of blood fury editing history)==
Not much more to add, if you guys have a manual regex filter checking this stuff, you may want to edit it for this false positive (I'm willing to look at any regex you want too) {{u|Wymb|05:50, 4 September 2020}}

Edit, here's the attempted text:

{{quote|
The '''Amulet of blood fury''' is an [[Amulet of fury]] enhanced with a [[Blood shard]], which can only be obtained in [[Darkmeyer]] as a rare drop from [[Vyrewatch Sentinel]]s or by pickpocketing [[Vyre]]s.

It has the same stats as the amulet of fury, and when using melee, it has a 20% chance of passively healing the player 30% of the damage they deal. Once created, the amulet has 10,000 charges, losing one every time the player successfully damages their target, whether the amulet's effect triggers or not. When it runs out of charges, the Blood shard breaks, leaving the player with only the Amulet of fury.

Depending on the opponent's [[Defence]], with a four tick weapon (such as the [[Abyssal whip]] or a [[Ghrazi rapier]]), one shard will last for approximately seven hours of sustained combat before depleting; with a five tick weapon (such as a [[Leaf-bladed battleaxe]]), one shard will last approximately eight and a half hours.
The Amulet of blood fury will use a charge for every non-miss hitsplat, so weapons like the [[Scythe of vitur]] will use multiple charges on successful hits.

On average, players will heal 6% of the damage they deal, and the total health that a fully charged amulet will heal is approximately the player's maximum hit multiplied by 300: for example, with a setup with a maximum hit of 50, the amulet will heal 15,000 hit points on average before breaking.

The current cost per charge is: {{Coins|{{GEP|Blood shard}}/10000}}
}}

{{u|Wymb|20:01, 4 September 2020}}

:Just like the [[RuneScape:Administrator requests#Offensive words on edit? Doesn't make sense.|other false positive above]], the substring that was caught was a result of whitespace being stripped before it was compared against the filter. This time it was the <code>s hit</code> part of <code>every non-miss hitsplat</code>. We're discussing a way around this, but for now I'd recommend rewriting that sentence. -[[User:Towelcat|Towelcat]] ([[User talk:Towelcat|talk]]) 23:34, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

::I'd recommend adding empty string characters <code>\b</code> around terms you don't want caught when they're part of another term. For instance I have an automod regex filter with a variety of terms, such as for the word "troll", but I don't want it catching stuff like "controlling" or "trolley". It ends up looking like this: <code>'\btroll(s|ing|ed)?\b'</code> where the empty strings serve as word boundaries so it doesn't catch all the other words listed here: https://www.thefreedictionary.com/words-containing-troll {{u|Wymb|00:44, 5 September 2020}}

:I considered suggesting that when we were discussing what to do with the filter, but I'm not sure that's the best fix. The reason whitespace is stripped is to catch a word with spaces in the middle to try to avoid the filter. That said, I think the current approach is too heavy handed and could be better solved by just adding more edge cases to the blacklist. [[User:Cqm|'''cqm''']] <sup>[[User talk:Cqm|'''talk''']]</sup> 19:59, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

::It seems like type 1 errors are worse than type 2 errors here. A false positive prevents someone from contributing, but non-caught incidence of profanity can be reported by the community (and edited out easily). Stripping whitespace is going to give you a ton of false positives. {{u|Wymb|01:17, 9 September 2020}}

==Stylesheet for infobox examples==
Can someone assist with adding stylesheet for infobox examples?

Edited some template documentation, but the examples look a tad ugly with their default infobox styling ([[Template:Infobox Quest/doc|Example]]). I tried manually slapping a clear and float attribute on them but I was unsuccessful.

I think what I'll probably need is a style class (say "infobox-example") that inherits from infobox but has float set to "none". With that I should be able to add a parameter to the template to select which style to apply, regular or the example one. --{{User:The scribe/Signature}} 10:37, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

:I may just be tired, but could you clarify what you're trying to do with layout? [https://i.imgur.com/oTFHBcl.png Something like this?] -[[User:Towelcat|Towelcat]] ([[User talk:Towelcat|talk]]) 11:11, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

::Yes, exactly like that. --{{User:The scribe/Signature}} 11:24, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

:::Try wrapping it in a div with <code>style="float:left;"</code> and using a left clear. -[[User:Towelcat|Towelcat]] ([[User talk:Towelcat|talk]]) 11:31, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

::::I tried the following, but I couldn't get it to work.
::::<pre><nowiki><div class="clear-left" style="float:left">infobox here</div></nowiki></pre>
::::<pre><nowiki><div style="float:left;clear:left">infobox here</div></nowiki></pre>
:::: --{{User:The scribe/Signature}} 11:43, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

:::::Try using a clear after the div:
:::::{{Quote|<nowiki><div style="float:left;">infobox</div>{{Clear|Left}}</nowiki>}}
:::::-[[User:Towelcat|Towelcat]] ([[User talk:Towelcat|talk]]) 12:00, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

::::::Thanks. That looks much better now. --{{User:The scribe/Signature}} 12:07, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

==Lost my old phonenumber On email==
i havent played osrs in a while forgot a few passwords wich made me lock myself out of my email now that i have the right password i need to verify through my cellphone number wich i lost theres much still to type about it but i wanna know if theres any solution to fix this problem

regards, NevRanok
{{u|143.176.158.26|14:01, 11 September 2020}}

:Hello! Sorry to hear that you're having some troubles. It appears that you're trying to reach Jagex. If that's the case, this will not be the method to do so. This is the Wiki which is not ran by Jagex. I would suggest checking out the [https://support.runescape.com/hc/en-gb RuneScape Support Centre] for your issue. -{{User:Legaia2Pla/Signature}} 22:27, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

==Permission to remove one of the equippable categories==
So there's at last 3 ways to see if an item is equippable now. 

The last way comes from a test I did on "concepts" which I think should just stay up permanently as it is the ''only'' working example of concepts that we have on the site as of today. Concepts are kind of cool, think of them like a dynamic category of sorts, I'm itching to find some use-cases for them.

But the other two are ''redundant''. Didn't see that "Infobox item" sets the "Equipable items" category (it was hidden) so I made "Infobox Bonuses" set a category called "Equippable items" (with two p-s). Now I should remove one of these and I suggest deprecating the one from "Infobox item". There should be no need to specify manually if the item is equippable, if "Infobox Bonuses" is used on a page and an "item slot" is specified then the item is equippable, period. 

Do I have ''permission'' to move forward with this? And is there any users of these that might break that I should be aware of? Also not sure if it's spelled with one or two P-s. <strike>I should also probably mention that one could also remove the category from ''both'' infoboxes and rely only on the "concept" I just made, if you think that category serves no purpose for humans. That's assuming nothing else uses it.</strike> --{{User:The scribe/Signature}} 02:07, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

:Decided to do this the other way around, not because it's necessarily better but because it guarantees there won't be any complaints later, since I won't really be changing anything major. It also happens to be relatively effortless. In preparation of switching from page exclusion lists generated from one of the categories to the other, I've gone over the original category and made sure they were consistent. That basically boils down to making sure articles with infobox bonuses are tagged as equipped, and vice versa. Also treating discontinued and unobtainable items differently. The unobtainables were set to unequippable while the discontinueds were set to equippable. --{{User:The scribe/Signature}} 21:29, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

==Change to infobox bonuses (scheduled)==
Planning to switch the property type of "Weapon attack speed" (set by "Infobox Bonuses") from "Text" to "Number" in 24*3 hours. This means any values such as "no" or "n/a" will translate to 'nil' and won't be stored in SMW, but non-exisistence can still be tested for. If you have any concerns, questions, objections, suggestions or request for tomato sauce recipies please make them in good time. Thank you. --{{User:The scribe/Signature}} 21:32, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

:Hey Scribe, sorry for the last minute answer. The DPS calculator does differentiate between "N/A" and a nil value (the first is accepted, whereas the second throws a warning or error). The N/A is the reason why the property is Text. I would like to have a solution for N/A values (for example, convert N/A to an attack speed of -1 or something) if you need the property to be a number instead of text. To my knowledge, there's no other dependancy on this property. --[[User:Gau Cho|Gau Cho]] ([[User talk:Gau Cho|talk]]) 00:51, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

:It's more convenient to use types that match the data. For large tables of data that needs conversion, this can add up, although I'll admit it's not all that important. "-1" sounds fine as there won't be any weapons with negative attack speed so it can be used for that purpose. Assuming I don't run into any difficulties changing the infobox, I'll do it that way. Gotta finish some other stuff first tho'. --{{User:The scribe/Signature}} 01:11, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

:Changes to the dang infobox is done, and it looks like things still work. This affects properties 'Weapon attack speed' and 'Weapon attack range'. Special values are stored as negative powers of two, so -1, -2 -4, -8 etc. We can do this for these properties because it's safe to assume no valid values will ever be negative. So far the special values are -1 for 'N/A' and 'No' and -2 for attack speeds 'random' and 'varies'. --{{User:The scribe/Signature}} 05:53, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

::Is there some significance to using negative powers of 2? Since each negative value is a different special case, I would recommend writing each case as a comment on the speedargsmw function and on the Property page. If possible I would rather use sequential numbers since it otherwise seems like a misleading convention (if I saw a -4, I would assume there were 4 special cases). Either way I don't see the advantage of having a comment describing a hypothetical system for cases that don't exist. [[User:Riblet15|Riblet15]] ([[User talk:Riblet15|talk]]) 07:08, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

::Using values that are powers of two effectively makes it a bitmap, which means it is possible to store several boolean values in the same number, just by OR-ing or ADD-ing them together. If you think this level of future-proofing is silly I can change the comment to say sequential. Or you can just go ahead and make the change right now if you like. --{{User:The scribe/Signature}} 07:41, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

==Tooltips css==
[[Mediawiki:Gadget-tooltips.js]] needs some css to make it work properly.

[[MediaWiki:Common.less/tooltips.less]]
<syntaxhighlight lang='less'>
// <pre>
/* =======================================
     [[MediaWiki:Common.js/tooltips.js]]
   ======================================= */

.js-tooltip-text {
    padding: 5px;
}

.js-tooltip-wrapper {
    position: absolute;
    z-index: 999999;
    max-width: 75%;
    padding: 5px;
    border: 3px solid @BUTTON_LIGHT;
    background: @BODY_MAIN;
    .box-shadow( 3px 3px 10px -5px #333 );
    font-size: 12px;
}

.js-tooltip-click {
    color: white;
    background: @BUTTON_LIGHT;
    border-radius: 2em;
    border: 2px solid @BUTTON_LIGHT;
    cursor: pointer;
    padding: 0 0.3em;
    .user-select( none );
}

.js-tooltip-arrow {
    position: absolute;
    border-color: transparent;
    border-style: solid;
    z-index: 900001;
    width: 0;
    height: 0;

    &.js-tooltip-arrow-pointleft {
        border-right-color: @BUTTON_LIGHT;
        border-left-color: transparent;
        border-left-width: 0;
    }

    &.js-tooltip-arrow-pointright {
        border-left-color: @BUTTON_LIGHT;
        border-right-color: transparent;
        border-right-width: 0;
    }

}

.js-tooltip-close {
    float: right;
    margin-left: 10px;
    margin-right: -5px;
    margin-top: -5px;
    margin-bottom: 1px;
    background: @BUTTON_LIGHT;
    border: 0;
}
</syntaxhighlight>

[[MediaWiki:Vector-darkmode.less/tooltips.less]]
<syntaxhighlight lang='less'>
// <pre>
	
.js-tooltip-text {
    color: @dark-text;
}

.js-tooltip-click {
	background: @cloud-burst;
	border: 2px solid @cloud-burst;
}

.js-tooltip-wrapper {
    background-color: @pickled-bluewood;
    border: 3px solid @cloud-burst;
}

.js-tooltip-arrow {
    &.js-tooltip-arrow-pointleft {
        border-right-color: @cloud-burst;
    }

    &.js-tooltip-arrow-pointright {
        border-left-color: @cloud-burst;
    }

}

.js-tooltip-close {
	background: @cloud-burst;
}
</syntaxhighlight>

Also in [[MediaWiki:Gadget-tooltips.js]] change line 122 from <code><img src="/images/b/b5/Close-x-white.svg?52f66" /></code> to <code><img src="/images/b/b5/Close-x-white.svg?1ccac" /></code>{{u|CephHunter |07:13, 08 October 2020}}

:BUMP, for real though, [[Template:Chat option]] is supposed to use this already and has issues. {{User:Fjara/Signature}} 17:31, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

::I did the small change to Gadget-tooltips.js based on the immediately above request regarding the /Close-x-white.svg?1ccac --{{User:Legaia2Pla/Signature}} 17:39, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

:::Created the two .less pages; should be all set? --{{User:Legaia2Pla/Signature}} 22:49, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

==Black demon clue scroll chance==
In the black demon tertiary drops it mentions that the clue scroll drop chance is increased if a ring of wealth is worn. It doesn't make it very clear that this is only in the wilderness. Would be nice if it said:
The hard clue scroll rarity changes to 1/64 if a Ring of wealth (i) is worn '''''in the wilderness'''''. {{u|92.64.21.149|11:10 15 October 2020}}

==Autosort doesn't work==
{{RSL|User:Tyilo/Autosort Test}}
Using the first example there on a sandbox here, does not autosort the 2nd column as expected:
{| class="wikitable sortable autosort=2,d"
! Row 1 || Row 2 || Row 3
|-
| 3 || 5 || 7
|-
| 7 || 2 || 9
|-
| 1 || 9 || 99
|}
[[Money making guide]] utilizes autosort, but does not autosort column 2. (2,a) and (2,d) do not work. {{User:Fjara/Signature}} 23:27, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
:Looks like MrDew over at rswiki [[rsw:RuneScape:Administrative_requests#Deterministic_order_of_execution_for_table-related_gadgets/plugins|solved this]] a couple of weeks ago. Still, needs to be applied here by an admin. --{{User:The scribe/Signature}} 03:10, 23 October 2020 (UTC)